Analysis request

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Hello. I have an Scatt MX-W2 since a few days. After these few days of using, I can confidently say that this equipment is worth every euro spent on it :). I shoot black powder rifles so my shots are far from perfect ;). Can someone analyze my session? 10 out of 13 shots count for this competition.
I also attach a photo of the rifle from wich I fired :p.
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Your highest shooting achievement
10m pistol French Championship qualifications
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Amateur/Hobby Shooter
Primary Discipline
Air Pistol
SCATT Experience
Less than 1 year
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Hello Thazzer,

here are my comments on your shooting session. I'm a pistol shooter, therefore hardly able to suggest corrections on position, holding etc. But as no other rifle shooter answered I thought it was worth a try ;)

Altogether your shooting session is rather consistent with only a few missed shots: #3 and #11are obvious trigger jerks and #8 is lucky because the jerk took your aiming around the target without leaving the 10, but it could have been an 8 or worse. Otherwise your breach is very clean.

A second overall comment is that your aiming is quite unstable but you are able to compensate with good coordination. Shots #2 and #10 show this very clearly.

Another general comment is that your approach is very inconsistent, even erratic. Your aiming trace goes all around the target like out of control and it takes you a long time before you regain control and reduce the extent of your moves, like in #1,2,3,10. A consistent approach with a slow and straight trajectory to the center would be a great benefit. Maybe your upper body position lacks stability, but this might be rifle-specific and I can't comment further.

While you try to adjust your aiming, your moves follow a rather horizontal pattern below the center, like in #2,4,8,9,10,13. If you watch traces #4 and 10 with aiming zone displayed as rectangular (ref. settings) it clearly shows a very wide and flat rectangular shape. I suppose this may give some insight to corrections needed, maybe with your body position or holding your rifle.

Yet another analysis that seems interesting to me is about your last second before shot release. The spread of your S2 speeds if far larger than your S1. I would put that in relation with your coordination curve which shows that you loose almost 0.5 point during the last 300 ms before the shot (although this is clearly not the curve shape of trigger jerks). I would interpret this as a lost of control of your aiming right after you have "decided" to release the shot. Now look at what comes next: only 1/4th second after the shot your aiming leaves the target. What happens here is very well known: after you decide to release your shot you think you are done, but there is a delay between your thinking and your finger acting on the trigger. What you should do is hold your aiming and stability for at least 1 to 2 seconds while you act with your finger and after the shot release. Your coordination curve should make a jerk at the shot due to recoil but otherwise remain rather flat while you hold. This is a priority you must work on.

Well that's all I can say, hopping it helps you somehow. Good job anyway and a nice rifle you have here (y)
 
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Your highest shooting achievement
Double Distinguished
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High-power Rifle
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Over 10 years
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are you shooting off sticks??? that's what that rifle is usually for. that could change the analysis. and cal.???????
i adjusted the time the trace shows before the shot to 15sec, david did you do this???
i need more info on just what you are doing.
 
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10m pistol French Championship qualifications
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Air Pistol
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i adjusted the time the trace shows before the shot to 15sec, david did you do this???
Yes I was displaying all of the recorded trace before shot. That's where it appears that the approach to target jerks all around.
 
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all the up and down on his approach, could be breathing, if he is shooting off sticks. if thats a OH trace, then theres a problem for sure.
 
Your highest shooting achievement
10m pistol French Championship qualifications
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Amateur/Hobby Shooter
Primary Discipline
Air Pistol
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Less than 1 year
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all the up and down on his approach, could be breathing
I thought the amplitude excluded breathing, but rather taking position while aiming which is generally not a good idea...
 
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Thazzer
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I'm sorry for so long time without any activity. Thanks to everyone for taking his time to analyze my session. As I said, my shots are very far from perfect. I will try to work on the mistakes listed by Davidf92.
The caliber of this rifle is .38

are you shooting off sticks???
No, I'm not shooting with the cross-stick. I participate in the competition Sharps50 (Berdan):

A) Firearm: Percussion breech loading rifle
B) Sights: Original pattern sights, aperture sights are allowed
C) Target: MLAIC C50 meters pistol target
D) Position: Standing
E) Distance: 50 meters
F) Bullet: Original style bullets
G) Cleaning: Permitted
H) Funnel: Permitted
I) Clothing: no restrictions

(I'm shooting only with shooting jacket)
 
Your highest shooting achievement
Double Distinguished
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Amateur/Hobby Shooter
Primary Discipline
High-power Rifle
SCATT Experience
Over 10 years
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well ill have to look at the traces again, but i can say one thing for sure. that rifle is quite barrel heavy, which makes it hard for off hand, but anytime you go below the bull in aiming, the only way to get it back up is with muscle. muscle in off hand is not a good thing. the perfect trace would show the rifle coming straight down for the top, 11 to 1, and settle in the bull area. this would be set up in your natural point of aim. are you placing your upper arm against your chest, with your hand close to the trigger guard, or holding the rifle with your hand out on the forearm???
 
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